i always hated the rage gold. Some had high hopes the genetic engineering would correct this trend in evolution, but sadly the greatest minds and resources where focused on conquering hair loss and prolonging erections. They are a polyester resin base so glaze can be intermixed to get that perfect sanding consitency. I use a lot of lead, but most people are resistant to the idea of it and resistant to learning how to do it right, but there is no better body filler on the market than real lead. Go over it with the spreader 2-3 times pressing it very firmly into the panel, then just smooth out the lines the best you can with another pass or two. Too much shrinkage. Seemed to sand pretty goodstayed tacky on the top surface though and was a heavier body. I highly recommend it. I also use Evercoat Rage and like how it performs. Quantum1 utilizes patent pending 10:1 technology that is the successful integration of polyester and epoxy chemistries. Superior spreading and sanding properties eliminate the need for cheese grating or sanding with coarse papers. BUT, I like having different speed of hardener, depending on the job, it's nice not to rush, which the Ultra doesn't have. ONLINE ONLY - this item is not available in stores. Easily sands with 80 grit sandpaper, eliminating the need for coarse grits that can cause sand scratch swelling. cup or liners what systems are you guys useing?? Part of the MetalWorks System. It will sand the panel and show you exactly any low or high areas and also blend minor flaws if done correctly. Theres no second guessingonce mixed with cream hardener, OPTEX changes color to indicate the repair is ready to sand. Easiest of any filler I've used. Division of Illinois Tool Works Inc. | 6600 Cornell Road - Cincinnati, OH 45242 |, 2015 2022 Evercoat - All Rights Reserved, 100145_Rage_Ultra_Xtra_16_oz_Pouch_USENG.pdf, 100144_Rage_Ultra_Xtra_1_gallon_USENG.pdf, 101348_LOW_VOC_Rubberized_Undercoating_Aerosol_USENG.pdf, TDS_101348_RUBBERIZED_UNDERCOATING_2_2015_EN.pdf. I saw a demo on Extreme and that was the selling point, no pinholes. Rage Ultra is the worlds best sanding body filler. This topic has 10 replies, 8 voices, and was last updated. Not sure why but Ultra is cheaper everywhere right now. I used to use Rage Extreme, but now use Marson Platinum. Contains Evercoat ZNX-7 which quickly provides superior adhesion to galvanized steel and aluminum much sooner in the repair. Having said that though, apart from the cheap fillers with outdated technology, choice of filler can be a very personal thing. We had good time. When I went to rage gold, I never tried anything since. I don't remember any pinholes or voids at all. is manufactured with the Evercoat exclusive ECORESIN technology, it has the Rage Ultra industry-leading sanding properties including fast and easy sanding with 80 grit sand paper. Division of Illinois Tool Works Inc. | 6600 Cornell Road - Cincinnati, OH 45242 |, 2015 2022 Evercoat - All Rights Reserved, TDS_100125_RAGE-ULTRA-4.2021---US-ENG.pdf, TDS_100135_RAGE-OPTEX-4.2021---US-ENG.pdf, Rage Ultra XTRA SOP and Puddle Size Poster, TDS_100181_COMMERCIAL-ULTRA_3.2017-US-ENG.pdf, TDS_100490_QUANTUM1_LARGE_REPAIR_2_2015_EN.pdf. Post your compressor/gun questions here. Keystone stuff not so much. Ultra is only 42 bucks per gallon at my jobber and is very easy and fast sanding. Used the platinum plus a few times but I always went back to the Platinum. Introducing a revolution in body filler technology. It sands so easy, almost like drywall mud. it made me question, how durable is it? We stand behind our solutions and customers. My local Jobber just got in a new product, Rage Ultra. I think I might add a video for everyone on this forum to show them how to use a buffer/grinder to do filler work. The unsurpassed sanding qualities are attributed to Hattonite, a unique ingredient which reduces heat and friction created by aggressive sanding. Superior spreading and sanding properties eliminate the need for cheese grating or sanding with coarse papers. I also looked on US Chemical's site and noticed a similar product called Feather-Rite that's available in a quart. If you dont need it immediately, that may be worth it. I've whitnessed then changing the labels literally they take the evercoat label off and put on the house label. It's hard to use anything but that, sands so easy. Rage Gold also contains ZNX-7 for adhesion to galvanized steel and aluminum. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Many people are skeptical about it. This is some good infoI can't say how many times this past couple of months I've wondered about the Dyna Lite brand in Autozone. Its unparalleled sanding qualities are a result of the patent pending formula that contains renewable technology. Blue cream hardener included. I've probably tried them all, 3M platinum is without a doubt the best. $38gl vs over $50 for any Rage product, four Paintable. Dont use the red hardner. filler dolphin glaze body four Skip to the beginning of the images gallery. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I used to use evercoat (black gold I think) and it was fantastic, tried this new stuff, cant remember the name of it but it seems to get a "skin" on it when it hardens and it clogs the paper up until you get the "skin" off it, even if you leave it for a day or so, it don't matter, still clogs up real bad, even with 36g, its a pain in the a**!! I didn't see much difference between the extreme and the platinum besides the price. no really it is Rage Gold.. I actually went into a keystone they were out on the shelf of their house filler. imho. Contains Evercoat ZNX-7 which quickly provides superior adhesion to galvanized steel and aluminum much sooner in the repair. I like what Im heard about it sands much easier. I have heard really good things about the Z grip to but never tried it. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Its non-sag formula is specially engineered to have excellent filling properties on vertical panels, while eliminating the need for finishing putty. Advanced formula with ZNX-7 provides superior adhesion to galvanized steel, aluminum, SMC and sanded OEM finishes. As for mixing the two colors we have never tested this to see how the colors blend. Rage Gold also contains ZNX-7 for adhesion to galvanized steel and aluminum. But, I didn't know any better. Why? Wanted to pop in here and say Napa is running the 20% off right now. I really didnt see an advantage over the 3m platinum which is what Ive been using for a while now. i actually find the 5star red label which i actually think is evercoat featherweight filler relabeled. Tack free and stain resistant, which extends the life of sandpaper and reduces the chance of staining. Can't go wrong. I like the dyna-delite because it was in stock and I didn't have to pay shipping. VOC Compliant. display: none !important; Fast sand formula for a quicker repair process, Gain a comprehensive understanding of how you can directly benefit from the features and core characteristics of our product, List of the substrates on which this product can be used, Check the application suggestions for this product across all markets, Develop a deeper knowledge about the characteristics of this product. Rage Ultra Xtra is specially formulated to allow for extended work timesup to 40 minutes. At the current shop I'm at we used to use the Keystone branded body filler we then switched over to Rage Ultra and I don't think they are the same. Sets up very quickly which is nice unless you need a lot of time to play with it. Rage Ultra Xtra is specially formulated to allow for extended work timesup to 40 minutes. I don't think the $15 a gallon stuff you are talking about True65 is the same as rage. Rage Ultra sands extremely easy. Now that stuff spread like crap, pin holed & sanded like concrete. Which 3m is around forty eight dollars a for the same quanity. I usually settle with the gold, the extreme is very expensive. Evercoat, the industry leader in body filler technology has developed a revolutionary body filler specifically for the unique needs of large commercial equipment companies including ambulance and train manufacturers. HEAVY ITEM - select lift gate service for freight delivery in checkout, unless you have a loading dock. I agree with sticking with the original platinum as well. Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Ian Berky, May 21, 2008. Smooth application, easy sanding, non clogging with good adhesion and work time. Evercoats first single step body repair technology specifically designed for large, multi-panel or vertical panel repairs. Rage Gold sucks unless you like a hard sanding filler. As a result, Quantum1 has less shrinkage, better sandability and better repair quality than traditional body fillers and putties. Can anyone else confirm? The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. I think I might add a video for everyone on this forum to show them how to use a buffer/grinder to do filler work. Manufacturers and technicians can mix and spread large quantities knowing they have enough time to work larger surfaces, saving time and increasing productivity. An awesome way to do filler sanding to limit your blocking to next to none. Easily sands with 80 grit sandpaper, eliminating the need for coarse grits that can cause sand scratch swelling. Rage Ultra contains ZNX-7 and is part of the Metalworks system. I paid 15 for my gallon of filler. much better product[/quote] Thanks Jay. Sands like spackle!! I hope I like the extreme as well as I like the Ultra. No more than a golf ball per batch. im pretty open to trying this rage ultra though. Formulated with Evercoats patented ECORESIN technology, OPTEX offers superior adhesion to a broad range of substrates and unparalleled sanding properties. You must log in or register to reply here. Another vote for 3M Platinum. And because Rage Ultra Xtra is manufactured with the Evercoat exclusive ECORESIN technology, it has the Rage Ultra industry-leading sanding properties including fast and easy sanding with 80 grit sand paper. Quantum1 is specially engineered to have excellent filling properties, while eliminating the need for finishing putty. Manufacturers and Body shop technicians can mix and spread large quantities knowing they have enough time to work large surface areas, saving time and increasing productivity. I remember helping my dad when I was young how hard bondo was to sand!! You do not need glaze with Rage Ultra. Touting that it is the easiest sanding ,no pinholes ever..the cost was huge compared to Rage Gold (which I use regularly). An awesome way to do filler sanding to limit your blocking to next to none. its supposed to be some type of epoxy poly hybrid. I know that the Evercoat Rage fillers have a good reputation, but which one especially for someone who is new to body work. Smooth, sands easily, inexpensive. It also works well when working on a dented fender your trying to get back to contour. X2 on the Platinum. Is to use the grinder polisher with a backing pad and a 4-6" 50g disc on a medium speed. AG 47 is also very good and less than half the price and again no pin holes. Eastwood 2K Aerospray Polyester Primer Surfacer, Evercoat Rage Gold Filler Gallon Reviews - page 2, Eastwood CONTOUR Premium Autobody Body Filler .8 gal, Eastwood CONTOUR Polyester Primer Direct to Metal Surfacer, loc_en_US, sid_12712ZP, prod, sort_[SortEntry(order=RATING, direction=DESCENDING), SortEntry(order=SUBMISSION_TIME, direction=DESCENDING)], Hattonite reduces heat and friction caused by aggressive sanding, Improved adhesion to galvanized steel and aluminum, loc_en_US, sid_12712ZP, prod, sort_[SortEntry(order=LAST_APPROVED_ANSWER_SUBMISSION_TIME, direction=DESCENDING)]. Introducing Evercoat Commercial Ultra Body Fillerspecially formulated for extended work timesup to 10 minutes. It sands easy, I start with 80 then 120 then 240 then prime. I seem to find nothing but good comments about the Evercoat Rage Ultra and being a 1st timer, even though, it costs more, I want product that would make my life easier and have determined that I will get the Ultra. So if this stuff is better Id like to try it. You may certainly apply multiple coats to achieve the desired shape. Home Forums Product Reviews Refinish Supply Rage Ultra. Rage Xtreme is the world's first truly pinhole-free premium body filler. I like Rage Gold and Ultra, have used them on my projects. For superior adhesion and corrosion resistance, I have read and understood the privacy policy. OPTEX is also part of the METALWORKS System that guarantees the repair to maintain the O.E.M. I feel it sands really easy, But that's only by my comparison from what I was used to. JavaScript is disabled. Part of the MetalWorks System. }, Viewing 11 posts - 1 through 11 (of 11 total), 5 Must Have Tools for the Die-Hard Painters, Devilbiss DV1 Base / DV1 Clear Spray Gun Review, Muscle car Sail Panel Lead removal and repair. X2 I have not used evercoat products for a long time and dont plan too , For the price rage ultra and xtreme are both good products. The max time you will want the product to be exposed to the air is two days max, you will want to use 120 grit paper for prep. You can certainly use both the gray and white epoxy primer both under and over the rage filler. Contains Evercoat ZNX-7 which quickly provides superior adhesion to galvanized steel and aluminum much sooner in the repair. I guess I should try something different. The years passed, mankind became stupider at a frightening rate. "Never be afraid to try something new. How cold was it when you used it? But the cost was the same for a gallon of Rage Gold as the smaller sized can of extreme. I'm about to order the Rage Ultra, but want to see what other good body fillers are out there. Wound that be a good routine Len? I tried it a few months ago. Im always lookin for something better..Im still looking for the filler that sands and shapes itself..LOL. Subscribe to our newsletter to receive news & updates. = Another vote for Rage Gold. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/bk-boss-302-tribute-coyote-restomod-build.html, Evercoat FIB-125 Evercoat Rage Ultra Body Fillers | Summit Racing, Fibre-Glass Evercoat Rage Ultra Premium Body Filler Gallon FIB-125 Free Shipping | eBay, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Got two because. Tack free and stain resistant, which extends the life of sandpaper and reduces the chance of staining. Part of the MetalWorks System. Easily sands with 80 grit sandpaper, eliminating the need for coarse grits that can cause sand scratch swelling.