That's fine we can leave this thread open for now. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. It's how it is when you break it down. Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type. It would be even better if there was integration with fusion360. I am currently trying to scan a model bird for a blind contact who wants to be able to replicate it so other blind people can feel its shape. Air & Space Forces Intellectual It behoves AutoDesk to court them. Once the samples have been reviewed and approved, a Crafters License Agreement will be emailed to the crafter for review and signature. I still have a budget, and it certainly does NOT include sending Autodesk $300US a year, that's more than half what I paid for the printer, and doesn't even include the costs to setup a proper scanner. PropertyManagementOffice I'm NOT attacking you, just pointing out your reply looks different fromthisend than what you probably intended. These agreements also render a company as an official licensee of the DAF. Many military spouses chose to start businesses with the goal to create products that help our military community demonstrate pride in their service and unit. A merchandise license describes the terms through which the DAF grants permission to a company to use a trademark, service mark or copyright for distribution, marketing and sale. This means that. Believe it or not, the slogans of each service is also trademarked and cannot be used for commercial purposes without consent of the represented service. When in doubt, contact the trademark offices listed above or your local Public Affairs or legal office. Tomislav, to give you another perspective on the issue: You are Autodesk paid IT professional and $300 is something below yourrecognitive capability. ITS US$300 a year for a licence, that's not out of reach, less than a $1 a day. It was very informative but I am still left with a question that hourly you will know the answer to , I am wondering if you can use the words Army, USMC, Air Force, Navy, & Coast Guard on apparel that youre selling? Yeah I agree with that, never hurts to be safe. Thank you for allowing 360 for Hobbyist!! I would like to use the following Icon as a letter head. Hobbyists cant afford a min of 100k a year, Navy now has a hobbyist license I just got mine last week, http://www.navy.mil/trademarks/licensing.html, Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, 12828332_762431577221681_3677311758076323422_o.jpg. "Get back into focus: this is a forum for the RECAP software, nothing else.". As the 3D printer machine prices drop, there is a growing small army of casual and hobbyist users, as well as many current Students at all levels from about 4th grade on. 1960 1st Street West If someone buys a 3D printer for a small hobby, as a huge number of people are doing, they will usually get a machine under $500US. We all want to show our military pride, but one of the best ways we can do that is to respect the rules and regulations that govern our way of life. At least they are reasonable. The reason I went with getting the license was for selling at festivals and craft shows. For additional information or to report unauthorized use please contact the Trademark Licensing Program Office: Department of the Navy in recent years we have done more business and better profit just having proof because in our business there are alot of made in china knockoff products. Just as an aside - if there is NOT such a structure (of course, I lobby strongly for that ) you might consider it with restrictions on use; "x" number of models / month for the hobbyist, or, when it comes online, restricting the hobbyist to local processing, so you're not incurring data transfer & processing costs, probably a couple of the biggest cost involved. Many of the images and slogans we see on a daily basis are protected by trademarks that could land you in hot water if you do not have the proper permission to use them. altruistic. Suite W515A This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. Even after being out for 6 years they manage to find ways to keep trying to screw me over. Same thing like CEO's doesn't notice $3K expense on their vacation. I have been trying to go by the book and it is pretty damn hard. Office of Naval Research Download the PDF then email Navylicensing.fct@navy.mil the application, *** please submit quarterly reports toroyaltyreporting.fct@navy.mil. I may use it a few times a year. The way I made this one I could not pre stain I did this in many steps. I owe a jarhead friend of mine something nice, that looks like something hed love. Given Autodesk's range of software, they could offer the same kind of deal. If you start down the road to designing 3D objects, ReCap is the next logical step. We are still talking about a license for a software, aren't we? As for the Student fee, that's great, but it'snotaltruistic. And if I ever do and if they wanna court martial me after being out for 21 years they can do so, lol. A merchandise license describes the terms through which the DAF grants permission to a company to use a trademark, service mark or copyright for distribution, marketing and sale. Here are a couple of things to keep in mind if you are considering using some of these items in your business: The official seal of each armed service is trademarked and may not be used for un-official purposes or without permission from the service it represents. Did the suggestion I provided yesterday work for you?If so, please click Accept as Solution on the posts that helped you so others in the community can find them easily. make a silhouette of the eagle /globe and anchor and cut a circle pocket around the image 1/4in. I don't know how else to put it. Man Brutal. JBSA-Randolph, TX 78150 That includes not only manufactured items, but use on websites, blogs, or any other form of non-official printed or electronic communication. This will help the Project Manager and developers hear your voice on any changes/concerns with functionality directly for consideration in future builds. Does it help allow the Student to accomplish their life goals? You can check on the status of your application by emailing us at Navylicensing.fct@navy.mil or by calling (703) 696-4002 or (703) 696-6676. Each Forum is like moving to a new town, different rules, different layout, different editor, it can be dizzying! If, for arguments sake, your car registration is US$300 per year, so you could say the same thing for car ownership. Office of Counsel They then quickly find that those machines aren't well built, and need a number of Mods to get them going, as well as a lot of filament, nozzles, etc, etc, etc, ad nauseum. I am with you. Let's say they decide to do a Startup with their newfound skills. Unit insignias often do not carry the same trademark that official seals do, but they are not open for free use. It's STILL going to cost more money, even if you go lo-tech. Sale sites include street festivals, craft fairs, farmers markets, and online craft marketplaces like Etsy. I think it is good to notify the groups on watching their legal tails in the case of a lot of things we make. Do I need permission to use this Trademark for our internal company veterans? This translates to: US military seals may not be used for commercial products, period. If you feel that you have a product that will help spread the word about the U.S. Air Force or U.S. Space Force, then you should apply for a MERCHANDISE LICENSE. Keep up the good work!!! As a result, it's quickly becoming the "go to" for many 3D hobbyists and Startup companies, with a $100K / year income cap. . I'm sitting here at home on a Saturday wondering how to mod a slider part for my 3D printer. got my $30 paid just waiting on my hobbyist license number. Plus they got a descent piece of me for my service to this country, so hopefully they will overlook a couple of decals. We have approximately 133 veterans all branches and ranks. I was looking for a way to take an STL file and make it into a solid. Licensingfees are way out of line for a casual user, so it becomes a dead end if there is not such a license structure. Thanks again for the feedback, it gave me a chance to flesh out my point. It's STILL going to cost more money, even if you go lo-tech. Once the Student graduates, they lose the license. Those can nearly double their costs. The following fees will apply on an annual basis: $150 for gross sales between $1,500 and $2,499; and, $200 for gross sales between $2,500 and $5,000. Thanks for checking back, I'm leaving it open ~just in case~ someone wings in with another reply. This includes not only in a manufactured product for sale, but also on websites, blogs, and other printed and electronic communications. This is topic related to license schemes of Recap software, discussing it's price is therefore ontopic, especially when we're talking about hobby segment. Thanks for the feedback, but I strongly disagree. I know, I followed that route, and found many others who are doing so too. It's not car that you need to drive to your job, where you earn your bread. Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular ReCap topics. Less than $1 a day to have the car registered. That's why it's brilliant! If you don't like the discussion, you're welcome to move on, whilethe rest of us have a thoughtful discussion on that subject. At some point you'll become discouraged with the low quality you're getting and MORE money will be spent to upgrade the hardware. How do I ask for permission for the task? We are all excited about bring in our own models. ", ReCap Startup Hobbyist Licensing 3d Printing. Your comment might be relevant for professionals, where that $300 should be part of price of their work and thus kinda irrelevant to anybody but their clients. Recap is a much less friendly part of the Autodesk community. It's the truth. Thank you Autodesk for all you do.You have a business to run!! Whats next? Can't find what you're looking for? Yep. Learn how your comment data is processed. At some point you'll become discouraged with the low quality you're getting and MORE money will be spent to upgrade the hardware. "Get back into focus: this is a forum for the RECAP software, nothing else. On the other hand, the Navy requires a business plan, credit scores, business records for past years, samples, etc. Thank you for participating in our Community!!! I still have a budget, and it certainly does NOT include sending Autodesk $300US a year, that's more than half what I paid for the printer, and doesn't even include the costs to setup a proper scanner. There is some gray area when it comes to repurposing uniforms. Beauty! Playing at agressive entitled elitist isn't needed here, glad to hear you're well-off enough to afford it, many are not. I searched for about a half hour trying to find if there's a Hobbyist / Startup license, to no avail. Thank youThank youThank you! . Crafters are not required to purchaseholograms, but may do so if they desire. Did you pre-stain to get the color difference? remove 1/8th material across the whole board leaving the U.S.M.C. Awesome, thanks for the link! Licenses are valid for a term period, usually a 12 month period, and may be renewed at the sole discretion of the Department of the Navy. There in CZE/EU that's monthly food budget for two - so that expense really counts. Army Wife Network is blessed with many military-focused people and organizations that share their journey through writing in our expert blogger category. Old, outdated, and out of regulation uniforms may be repurposed, but be careful about repurposing any uniform that is currently in regulation, especially any camouflage patterns. Unfortunately I can't justify the cost of purchasing a decent 3d scanner and $300 for an application I may only use a couple of times a year is a little much. I would suggest to submit you feedback on the ReCap IdeaStation linkon the ReCap community home page. Certainly not now at $30/month or $300/year. I'm very mechanical, and have been an Electronics Tech for 47 years, Computer Tech for 37 years. And one should not be very subtle or gentle when reminding the Navy of this fact. It got me thinking about how they might have the rights to sell the file but do i have the rights to reproduce it. That's exactly what this thread is about, licencing fees for RECAP software, as a HOBBYIST. Most big companies recognize the opportunity to expose their product to (usually) young people to develop a loyal following, it's a brilliant move. What the heck has that got to do with food budgets or cars for crying out loud, if you cannot afford this software go find a software you can afford. What the heck has that got to do with food budgets or cars for crying out loud, if you cannot afford this software go find a software you can afford. They offer three different licensing programs: one for large businesses, one for small businesses, and one for hobbyists. ", Your aggressive and nasty reply to someone who is pointing out the realities of the world isn't appropriate here. The crafter may wish to purchase product liability insurance. Ask the community or share your knowledge. "It's only $1US a day" is a classic SALES technique to soften the blow of an expensive product or service; all the large companies use it. The DAF works with many businesses and individuals who produce a wide variety of products and services to the commercial sector. deep. Does it help allow the Student to accomplish their life goals? It's not condescending at all. I would love to see this! document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Let's look at car registration. My dealings with ReCap leave me feeling bitter. To them it's a LOT of money, and an ongoing one. Every company that plans to market, sell or profit from merchandise that includes U.S. Air Force and U.S. Space Force intellectual properties must acquire a merchandise license with the Department of the Air Force. It's an added fee to let you use the car on the road. Good information, I had no idea. I watch comparative reviews and am desperate to find a cheaper alternative. I think of two things: Firstly, there is the way that Fusion 360 works much more positively with the small players like me. Well, it sure can't support popping out an extra $300/year while they work flipping burgers or, if they're particularly talented, in an entry level job in their field. Thank you so much for your reply. The Department of the Navy is proud to offer a program that benefits crafters and hobbyists. Even though I dont wanna go back to the brig, but Im sure that they got bigger things to worry about than just a few decals or any pieces of wood with our emblem on them. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. DODI 5535.12_DAFI 35-114, Air Force Branding and Trademark Licensing Program, DOD Guidelines About the Use of Department of Defense Seals, Logos, Insignia, and Service Medals, Labor Department: Child Labor/Forced Labor, Hosted by Defense Media Activity - WEB.mil. Mostly guidelines of dos and do nots So here is what I made. Currently in the processes of obtaining the Marine hobbyist licensing cost is $30 per year with sales up to $5,000. Thanks again for the feedback, it gave me a chance to flesh out my point. Even an "on-demand" option where I pay per model would be great, as I would realistically use it a couple times per year. Products sold by our licensees not only supports access to ones favorite brand, but a portion of the proceeds are returned to the DAF for use within the U.S. Air and Space Force Intellectual Property Management office and directly supports morale, welfare and recreation programs throughout the U.S. Air and Space Forces. For me, it's fun. DSN: 487-6058, Air & Space Forces Intellectual Property Management. Those posts are reassigned under "Retired Experts" in order to allow them to remain available as content for our AWN fans. Same for car insurance. Yep. Some of the places we set up require proof that you either own your design of show that you have reproduction rights. Also, Education gets licences for free, so students shouldn't have to worry. The Pro. Well, I got marine corps decals that Ive made in my car, I havent sold any because I just dont want to, I could but I just dont. The current pattern used in USMC uniforms, for example, is also trademarked and may not be used without permission. Also, things like the famous Army star on a black background and the official US Air Force symbol are also trademarked and cannot be used without permission and/or licensing. AWTR Show #914: How to Dial the Anxiety Down When Life Dials It Up, Soldier and Family Readiness Groups (SFRG), Information about the use of seals and the offices to contact for permission or questions can be found here, AWTR Show 432: DOD Family Readiness Council, Holiday Prep Tips for the First-Time Host. It is what it is. It's STILL $300 US dollars, which may be an inconsequential amount of money to YOU, but it's not for many, and I'd venture to say over 80% of the world's population, so your statement is a, I'm NOT attacking you, just pointing out your reply looks different from, As for the Student fee, that's great, but it's. I have a project that involves machining a part to closely fit an existing organic surface that would greatly benefit from an accurate point mapping application. If that's US$600 a year, then breaking it down it's less than $2 a day. A number of those people will become proficient, they will graduate to become drivers of Industry, doing it large scale. as raised lettering. I have done some workshop work on behalf of Fusion 360 and I have qualified as a small business for Fusion. This means that if your business makes less than $5,000 per year,sells directly to your customers, and does not use an outside manufacturer, you do not have to file an application. I'm simply lobbing for Autodesk to consider making it available to those who are not using it in any real commercial way, as they did with 360. I am gonna have to look at only doing military logos for friends and family as gifts at this rate. I think you will be missing a HUGE market going forward if you don't allow for the smaller users, something you're OBVIOUSLY aware of since you did the Fusion 360 Hobbyist / Startup Licensing! Welcome to Autodesks ReCap Forums. The application should be completed and submitted together with an image or sample of the proposed product by uploading on the page of the electronic application. Every company that plans to market, sell or profit from merchandise that includes U.S. Air Force and U.S. Space Force intellectual properties must acquire a merchandise license with the Department of the Air Force. Now they have to pony up $300, EVERY YEAR, an enormous price to a recent grad who probably owes $50K for their education. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. I did some searching and emailing for NFL, and they might learn a thing or two from this. That's why it's brilliant! To do this kind of work, I have had to take a monthly subscription and invest in a $100 of credits, when I only need 12. We're talking about hobby to make live less miserable. Items must be hand-made; no commercially manufactured items are allowed. Again, when in doubt, contact the trademark office for your respective service. $30 and a few days wait is alot less hassle. Thank you so much for posting this! Of course the video is 2 years old and I come to find out that "Remake" seems to have been replaced by ReCap. These agreements also render a company as an official licensee of the DAF. Licensing is a big deal to me, None of my products for sale will ever have a copyright infringement item however I do see a ton of that kind of stuff being made all over the woodworking and CNC communities. Most big companies recognize the opportunity to expose their product to (usually) young people to develop a loyal following, it's a brilliant move. If anyone is interested here is the link to check out for obtaining use of military trademarks.