Have talked with Lowes and the manufacturer. SMARTCORE Desert Canyon Tile 12-in x 24-in Waterproof Luxury Flooring (19.63-sq ft) in the Vinyl Tile department at Lowes.com. BTW- I am a 47 year old female with no prior construction experience so, no, installation was NOT a problem! We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. We had a Tile setter come in and installed a porcelain tile floor. It appears the nieghbors below can hear us walking once we tore the carpet out.. The name says it all: luxury vinyl tile can make a big difference in your home. Absolutely love it. Its not crap. We take your security seriously, read our Insurance & Delivery Terms. We still love them! Free, fully insured shipping OR schedule an appointment, 4. Used the underpayment too. Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. 6. The only way you would know is if you looked at it when wet-a little water seeped into the wood pores a few millimeters up the cut edges. Kudefilipps, I can answer about the subfloor question. Remember I am referring to the smart core flooring. Should I buy the basic entry level smartcore product with good padding like easygo, to ensure a good sound barrier or will i be fine with no underlayment/Ultra product? Mike--I asked one of our flooring specialist why the directions would say specifically for you to work left to right (Or right to left for that matter!) Hello Karen, what brand extra underlayment do you recommend or just use plastic moisture barrier ? We are proud of our A+ BBB rating, a testament to our unparalleled customer service, professionalism and strong prices. I also considered SUPERcore SPC flooring, but couldnt find a floor I loved. SMARTCORE Half Moon Stone 12-in x 24-in Waterproof Luxury Flooring (19.63-sq ft) in the Vinyl Tile department at Lowes.com. I do have one spot on my floor where you can see that the floor did not lock in, however it can be interpreted as not being installed correct. For some people that's not a problem and the wear becomes part of the patina. Has anyone used Benjamin Moore Sea Glass from the Colour Story collect. We used this same flooring in our movie/bonus room. Mike, in case Karen doesn't respond. If were to have to choose a product for this project right now I would probably choose Pergo Gold Underlayment. I just uploaded a pic from Lowe's website. I once had a shelf where the back and front looked very similar. It may be required for the ultra or pro, I dont know. SMARTCORE Pro Moonlight Mist 12-in x 24-in Waterproof Interlocking Luxury Flooring (15.83-sq ft) in the Vinyl Tile department at Lowes.com. The rubber is too soft and absorbs the blow . I returned the China made product and got boxes that were only manufactured in the USA. So, she thought it might be more as a figure of speech. After living with it for two years of constantly shifting out of place we pulled it out and put it in the trash were it belongs. It does not store any personal data. Thanks so much. The only other thing I can think of is when you are giving directions to people on a stage, you always have to remember that your right is their left. If you are looking to sell diamonds, luxury jewelry, watches, handbags or sneakers we look forward to being of service and are on hand to answer any of your questions. Hi, we're looking for something that we can put over ceramic tile in a rental property. #1 The ends of the flooring will not snap together because the groove on the bottom side is cut down to low, this allows the flooring to not snap in and hold like it should. I was pretty happy with the overall result and hope to get a chance to lay some more flooring as I felt I learned as I went. Project done. Follow the directions and lay the long end first, slide it to the short end and gently push in at a 45 angle and you will hear it click and then tap with your hammer. I love the wide planks and light color!It makes the room look so much bigger and the light color is so soothing. Find step-by-step project details here: http://low.es/2Fia70R.Difficulty Level: Moderate. These did snap in but do not lock in, you can pull them apart with little force, that should not be. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. When we were selecting our LVP for out 2nd level condo we couldn't find pictures of the floor color we were going with, so I am posting it here for others that may want to see the Lowes Smartcore Ultra Brunswick Maple color. Since it is manufactured in Spain, I am wondering if anyone had issues getting all the molding pieces. Cost is comparable. Installation was great, and a year into this, it it tough as nails. Unfortunately this particular flooring is defective., there are numerous issues tha I will list. There are no costs associated with selling and our entire process is streamlined to take as little as 24 hours. It isn't ok! That being said, when he saw what flooring I had, he got annoyed. Has anyone installed Smartcore on a covered porch? 1. Hello. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. The base molding has not been put yet in the basement, so I was planning to cut the tongue/groove off the 1st row against the spacers and the base molding should cover the gap. #2 The LOWES employee said they had just lost a $25k job due to the flooring being an issue. Yea or nae? Good luck with your project. It does say to use a rubber mallet and not a dead hammer. Have a question? This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Still not clear about the requirement why we need to go to from left to right during the install. Hello Karen/Nancy, thanks so much for your responses. China made vs USA made. Oh, yesSince this is concrete on second floor with no moisture, only sandy dust, do I need underlayment regardless? First off, you can toss that box of spacers and tapping blocks that the lowes worker said you needed. 91 0 obj <>stream (Not sure as to why the above post had mold unless the floor wasn't dry during installation or they didn't put the underlayment down.) As such, we buy your items directly, no middle-man or waiting for us to sell on your behalf. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. I have worked in multifamily housing industry for 30 years and I like this product for the durability. We measured height and seems to be the same. 1. With the dead blow hammer the end joints snapped right together with no problem. If I reverse the tile, it will make the install very difficult. After speaking to a flooring associate at Lowes when returning, she told me smartcore was sold to Shaw a year or so ago, and since then the quality in production has gone down significantly. Try a couple rows and you'll see. Do this correctly and you actually see the gap disapear. Good luck on your floor. I assume I dont need a moister/vapor barrier either. We purchased ours at Lowes in Bridgeport, WV. Make sure the groove of the piece you are attaching to is clean of debree, its amazing how one speck in there can ruin your day. Im so disappointed. Loved it and when following instructions, had absolutely no problems whatsoever locking the pieces together. To me, tile is cold, too hard, and everything that gets dropped splatters in a million directions. Still have the WHOLE house to go! I want to know if the wood veneer and finish hold up. Planned to come back later. But if you have a very wavy floor you need to level it first. Your question will get more attention if it's on it's own.. Help! larger gap, it appeared the overall thickness is not the same on the two. That is probably the highest maintenance finish on one of the softest woods - and we have big dogs. No inflated or unrealistic price quotes. For some reason it will not accept the photo. Too late to change, (unglue) I realized the diagram was like looking at a stage. We were founded on the belief that selling luxury items should be a quick, stress-free and transparent process. Not the smartcore ultra or pro flooring. Had a 'professional' to come and start the installation, but had a hard time and left. The China one has holes in the padding. Wondering if the real wood veneer holds up to splitting and cracking. Most LVP has restrictions on how much underlayment you can use. Oops! I dont want grey tones or super grainy texture. I had to undo what he had begun and start over. There are many things to consider about wood, though. Established in 2012, our goal is to provide a fast and reputable selling service. We are building a second floor screened in porch in the south and looking for flooring to keep mosquitos for coming in from underneath. Speed: Sell in as little as 24 hours, from start to finish. I placed the black 6-mil polyfilm underneath (concrete basement floors at a lake house) and began to reinstall. Analytical cookies are used to understand how visitors interact with the website. Or is he just trying to sell to me? Husband jas messed with it since Dec. and not getting anywhere with it other than redoing, redoing, redoing, redoing! I was able to install all of the floor but I have every intention on contacting the manufacturer and LOWES, I want someone to send me a letter stating that the floors are defective and i I ever have an issue i want them to replace them at their cost. I used Briwax on my antique pine floors. I ended up seeing 2 or 3 spots after I was done, but all I had to do was lift it up, smooth the area, and re-lay. I wish it had even a little sheen but the Maple seems to be pretty matte, which is trendy now, but to me it looks like I'm putting unfinished lumber on the floor. Wish I had more photos to show you. Or he may may get a commission for every product he sells and wants you to buy from him. My brothe and myself have installed numerous vinyl floors in the past and have been very successful in doing so. I am wondering if the real wood veneer layer holds up with no splitting or cracking. Now, we are having it installed this week and the person installing it who was recommended by our neighbor is contracted out by Carpet Wholesalers, and appears to push their products. The installer said it was good. The designee of the Smartcore Pro is a little different from the Ultra or the Standard Smartcore. endstream endobj 32 0 obj <> endobj 33 0 obj <. In my opinion the tile snap ins are defective. Dedicated Client Representative: Our customers work with one dedicated client representative throughout the entire process. Has anyone used laminate flooring from Porcelanousa? Dont worry, its easy. one product made in USA and One made in China. We just purchased the SMARTCORE Ultra Blue Ridge Pine laminant flooring fom LOWES. Mike I was just speaking with my brother, there were two other issues I forgot to mention. It isn't rocket-science! We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience. we have direct sun beaming in the living room all morning and the sun hasn't done anything to the floors! We believe that a circular economy is the key to creating a more sustainable future. So back to my questions, basic with good underlayment, ultra by itself or ultra with extra underlayment? Thanks for posting your pics. Which is better? You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. I purchased the Smartcore pro gardena marble..and cannot get the planks to lock. BM uses 6 tints for it's CSC paint formula vs the 3 normally used in the rest of their paint. We like another man that posted have some made in China (has a halograff symbol on the box) and some from the US. If you have a piece that seems to lock on one side but not the other, just lock the one end and then gently lift the other end and you will hear it click ,then lower it and tap with your hammer. I just step on them and they continue to stick. What's more, I didn't want to have a cold floor! My floor did come out great but only after having to fight with it and many trips to the store to bring and pickup product. Dont wait for months to list your items on consignment sites only to have the pieces discounted. The LOWES floor sales/installers said they had never seen that type of underside before, we couldn't find another box with it either. They just released a smartcore underlayment, so I picked that up as well. This is a very fine quality floor and I highly recommend it. 4. Apparenly some of this flooring is made in the USA, some is made in China, they mix these products and they do not match up. I have attached a pic for reference. I purchased my floor from the Lowesn Slidell on Natchez drive, I'd suggest you call there and see what they say regarding the flooring. It would take way too long to go into all the finishes that are out there. Unlike traditional buyers, we purchase your items directly. We provide free, fully insured shipping to send your items in for a final price. Dogs can be a problem (so can high heels) - especially on softer woods like pine. Just not my taste. Apparently the specific product I used is currently unavailable. Any advice appreciated! 3. There were so many issues Hello Nancy and Karen, I figured out the left to right install reason. Buy, sell or consign your luxury items with our White Glove Service: free in-home appointments and pickup of your sale items are available around the US.From Birkin handbags to Patek Philippe watches to diamond rings, our VIP managers are here to help. I did soak the sample piece in a bowl of water for 36 hours and then dried it out. @jamie kelly We haven't had any fading in ours and it's been installed for a year and a half now. The end joints simply overlap and are tapped into place with a Dead blow hammer. Sell diamonds, luxury jewelry, watches, bags and sneakers in as little as 24 hours: honest price quotes and no fees. I dont see any reviews on the entry level smartcore without padding..it looks the same as ULTRA in terms of wear layer and core without the padding. Csunbean, you might want to start a new discussion/thread because that's a totally different type of product. However, this part my effort was my front hallway, right on the concrete slab. I used underlayment and really happy I did, I love the feel of the floor and was well worth the 60 bucks for 3 rolls. Turns out the locks are the most brittle locks on the market. Other people hate to see any dents or wear. Mike Smith the underside was not different from the USA made product to the China made, it was different only on one box of the USA made product. The floor is not even and we didnt level it- so the baseboard molding has done gaps. The glue down method is not really recommended unless the floor is going to be exposed to extreme temperatures. On the stair landing I laid it directly on the OSB. This creates a problem mostly because while laying the floor down as you go the others come apart and you have to go back and re-work, once you have it down and move on it will stay together but only after numerous times, it is still not locked in but will stay down due to the other planks holding it. I prefer wood to tile. He may just not want the hassle of getting those first two rows started (hardest part with any luxury vinyl). When installing wood in new construction, the boards need to be in conditioned space and allowed to acclimate before being installed. I installed it myself and it was very easy to lay down. We have small rental houses. Honest & Reputable Company: With over 1,000 online reviews and an A+ BBB rating, we pride ourselves on offering unparalleled customer service and honest, transparent price quotes. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". I'm assuming you're returning all your flooring for a full refund? Install and lock the pieces on the long width side, and then tap the short ends gently with a rubber mallet. When they're done right, they look great and last forever. We do the entire house in Brunswick Maple. It came up in one place as shown in pic..the floor is level but has dirt or sandy touch to it. Its apsolutely not needed with this type of flooring. These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. Has anyone used the Smartcore transition moldings? The ends of some were cut at a slight angle so they wouldn't go together without pulling the middle apart. Take care when you lift each piece out of the box, Yes the tabs are fragile, but treat it with care and you wont have any problems. For instance, if it's summer, hot and humid out and the wood is installed in unconditioned space, the boards will shrink and have large gaps between them later when it's cool and dry. I have been looking for reviews and firsthand experience with the Smartcore Natural products, also, but it is so new that there is no info out there yet. Its fairly easy to load a photo. ultra comes in two flavors. 2) What is the difference between Ultra and Pro? I am deciding between basic smartcore product (without padding) and the ultra product for a second story condo. I loved this floor so much. Has anyone used the "Peel and Stick" Vinyl flooring? 2. The website descriptor seems to say this, but I dont necessarily trust that it will adequately even out the floor well enough to prevent problems down the road. The manufacturer recognizes there is a problem. Looking at the Smartcore Naturals, specifically the Rivers Edge Oak. Notice in the picture that the numbers are differrent, same flooring just differetn manufacturing codes based on where it is made. Designers like it's changeability but most people find it too variable depending on the light. All trademark names, brands and models mentioned on this website are the sole property of their respective trademark owners. You also have the option to schedule an in person appointment at our offices in NYC, London, Hong Kong or Tokyo. Its poorly engineered, not the type for a DIY project Theres no room for error. 8. I have a few questions for anyone with knowledge or experience. 0 If you've installed click flooring before, you know to clean out the tongue and groove to remove any dust or bits left over from cutting? Politely fire him and find another installer. If things dont work out, we send your items back to you free of charge and fully insured. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. Too many gaps no matter how hard you pound it. BEWARE!! Which is of better quality? hbbd```b`` "L@$O>" DC`'n@Efg${#A+@~ r=@l8=XG0Y $I]8LO I've had it down for almost 2 years, and as you can see in the pic, some of the edges are starting to come up a bit. Disclaimer: WP Diamonds is not an authorized dealer of any of the brands featured on this website. As of 7/17/2022, Your credit card will be charged once fulfillment of your order is complete. Untill you get some weight on the flooring by additional layers it seems it has the potential to seperate just a bit and can easily be fixed if you notice it sooner than later. Youll need to get down with a long level or straight edge and check the whole floor. 62 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[<51A2D2F6A74CCB418BEAE852B6AEE153>]/Index[31 61]/Info 30 0 R/Length 141/Prev 312570/Root 32 0 R/Size 92/Type/XRef/W[1 3 1]>>stream When tapping the hammer ,do an angle hit toward the direction of the groove of the connecting piece. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". %PDF-1.6 % The China version is what is on display. There were less of the China-made, so we swapped those out with USA. It has COREtec technology, the same as many of their products. He never read the instructions! There are specific requirements for the trueness of the floor. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. So are you asking out of curiosity or are you questioning me? Chance, if the product from US and China were not compatible and it had a different under layment based on place of manufacturing, then how did you manage to get them to lock ? Looking at large area, not close up, then it looks ok. Luxury Experts: WP Diamonds is considered a worldwide expert for selling diamonds, engagement rings, luxury jewelry, watches, handbags and sneakers. Pics show gaps. hb``b``b`e`Y ,@Qm+00tE9]o`P``h 7Fv -r F{l_ 3b[c+cn- Ia,:6i, And if we decide to stick with the smartcore, I dont want this guy installing it because he isnt familiar with it and may break it (on accident or purpose). The T mold appears to be incomparable with installation next to existing tile. Nice tight fit with no gapping. endstream endobj startxref Has anyone had problems using wood flooring in the kitchen with water? I've bebbeen through 2 boxes and they don'don't lock and break..not my first floor either. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. 7. International Luxury Buyers: We work with customers around the globe, with offices in NYC, London, Hong Kong and Tokyo for in person appointments. We are using Smartcore Ultra in Blue Ridge Pine and having nothing but major issues. An update to my above statement. Our experts will be in touch with your final price, WP Diamonds Is The Fast And Lucrative Way To Sell Luxury Goods Online. Free Process, No Fees: Our process is free of charge, no hidden fees or commissions are deducted from your final offer. Trade in watches, diamonds, designer jewelry, sneakers and handbags: get 10% more on your offer when you opt for payment in store credit.At WP Diamonds, sustainability is at the heart of what we do: recycling designer goods back into the luxury market. Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet. What is the trick? Please help!!! We price shopped extensively and it was the best deal, plus still a quality product. Sell diamonds, luxury jewelry, watches, bags and sneakers in as little as 24 hours to the experts. The specs should be listed on the smart core website. Chance, no pictures came through, would love to see them if you can repost them. All Rights Reserved. We Are wanting to install it in our house but wanted to poll the audience first :). The WP Diamonds process is simple, fast and secure. Thanks. Next vacancy -Brunswick maple. My parents installed in their home in 2018 to replace old ceramic tile. I wound do it myself, except, again, I have two little boys, the youngest being 15 months old and very clingy. I should have taken photos of the different backing, at the time I just wanted what I needed to finish my floor. Im grateful I had found this thread a while back because as we were loading up 42 boxes onto our cart, I noticed some were made in China and some in the USA. Let us know what youre selling using our online Price Quote Tool, 2. I had it all put together and it was a bit wobbly. I used an old one I had and put duct tape on the end as not to leave black marks on the flooring. 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Im looking at the Rivers Edge. We buy a wide and varied range of luxury goods: from diamond rings of 0.5ct to 5ct+, to luxury brands such as Rolex, Louis Vuitton, Omega, David Yurman, Chanel and much more. I bought several boxes and put them together to see what they looked like and lived with them for a while.