September 25, 1998 In mid-June, he got the call every minor leaguer craves. "A lot of these parents don't think about that. He initially retired after the 1993 season due to back problems but after four years of retirement, Stieb rejoined the Blue Jays in 1998, when he pitched in 19 games (three starts) with an ERA+ of 98. One of the companies is still active while the remaining one is now listed as inactive. I was a pitcher to be reckoned with, obviously.". Hewent 176-137 with an ERA of 3.44. Who he was: Dave Stieb made his only appearance on the writers ballot for the Baseball Hall of Fame in 2004. A bobblehead giveaway will feature the likenesses of Stieb, Roy Halladay and Pat Hentgen on the same pedestal. The problem, of course, is that Hall of Fame committees dont generally get too deep into the weeds with sabermetrics. "I said right off the bat, 'I don't belong in the Hall of Fame, I did not win enough games and so forth, Stieb told Sporting News in a recent phone interview from Reno, Nev., where hedoes land development work. Always on time and Jays helpfulness selecting the final color", "Always a great job by the crew thats why I always call Mastercraft for my painting needs", "History, professionalism, & quality employees", "Employees do their job well and answer any question you may have. The quality was consistent all the way through, with Part 3 easily the best. Always on time, courteous and good work! Im very happy with the quality of the work and professionalism of John, Colt & Mike", "An absolutely wonderful job quick, clean, professional and amazingly through! Both Kyle & Travis worked quickly the second day", "Jay youre wise & lucky to have a crew like Danny, Travis & Corey", "Employees are always on time, courteous and do a wonderful job. background-image:unset; We didn't monkey around with his mechanics at all. A few years ago, he joined two friends in a construction firm. He is also correct in his belief that he didnt get enough wins (for most voters) and not playing longer than he did (and being healthy for those seasons) definitely did hurt him. Says Martinez: "He threw a home run pitch to Greg Luzinski in Chicago, and as the ball cleared the fence, Dave threw his hands up in the air and looked at me as if to say, 'How could you call that stupid pitch?' I was fortunate to have players around me who could deal with all that. Yankees ace pitcher CC Sabathia tied his career wins record with his final win in 2011. Phone: 602.496.1460 ", Stieb pitched at Triple-A Syracuse in 1998 on his way back to the Blue Jays. How Dave Stieb was robbed of the 1982 AL Cy Young award, and what it's ", "Was very impressed with how neat the guys were. On and on the encomiums flow. Kyle was an example for all young people! He has good stuff. Maybe he thought that at this point, hed seen it all. I call it a feel. I totally respect him and his skills and what he did. Today In Dave Stieb History (@DaveStiebToday) / Twitter It sounds stupid, even admitting that.". On May 3, 1978 Bobby Mattick, then the director of player development for the Toronto Blue Jays, and Blue Jay scout Al LaMacchia were stationed near the stands on the first-base side in a little ball park in Charleston, Ill., when the visiting centerfielder jogged in to pitch the sixth inning. "He's so tight. Stieb's comeback started by accident. Southern Illinois University Carbondale (Carbondale, IL). Hall of Fame voting can be brutal in this regard, with numerous fine one-and-done candidates from Stieb to Bobby Grich to Ted Simmons and many others. Ward@wardconst.com. June 29, 1979 He ended up winning 158 games in the 1980s, which was. . Watch. In case anyones wondering, Stiebs heard of WAR. "It was hard for me to fathom why they wanted me to be something I wasn't," Stieb says. "It's like an insult, Stieb said. [7] After an excellent 1990 season, a series of shoulder and back injuries early in the 1991 season ended his effective pitching years, culminating in a 46 season in 1992 that resulted in his release after the season ended. ", "Your company is friendly, knowledgeable and delivers promises. After 20 minutes, professional courtesy dictates that I end the session, or so I presume. Efficient, professional, and timely", "It was nice to know I could trust Jesse with my house and key and not worry about being there. On September 2, 1990, he pitched the first (and, as of 2022[update], only) no-hitter in Blue Jays history, defeating the Cleveland Indians 30. Whos Dave Stieb? you might be asking. He is known for being a Baseball Player. And I don't think that's enough to make it to the Hall of Fame.". Search Details, 2) Social Media Profiles & More where he ran a construction company and spent much of his time with his family. "He thanked me for my apology," says Stieb. That winter Mattick took Stieb to the Florida Instructional League to work exclusively on his pitching. Soon it's gonna close on this phase of his life. A dropped fly ball in the second inning had given the Yankees four unearned runs. "After working with Stieb for a day or two, Mark told me Dave already had a better breaking ball than any of our starters. Last year, according to Toronto Pitching Coach Al Widmar, Stieb threw fewer than 110 pitches in 10 games and fewer than 100 in six. Photo by John Lott. As of 2023, Dave Stieb's net worth is $100,000 - $1M. I'm a real competitor who just doesn't deal too well with failure. Might be my favorite thing Jon Bois has ever done. . He did not look back until spring training in 1998, when the Jays invited him to Dunedin as a guest instructor. But they had at least done some pitching along the way. Alan Trammell, Lou Whitakerand Dale Murphy will all be newlyeligible. For example, Hall of Famer Whitey Ford had a career rWAR of 57.0 in 16 seasons, which is the same amount of seasons as Stieb. Source of Money. Wouldnt use anyone else! Why: A few significant hurdlesremain for Stiebs Hall of Fame case. Only Jack Morris won more games in the 1980s. ", MORE: Meet the top seven candidates for the 2018 Hall of Fame class. Learn more. Thanks! Dave Stieb is a building contractor and plays electric guitar. During his career, Stieb won 176 games while losing 137. We are very please and will definitely call Mastercraft if we have needs in the future", "Very easy to work with. Our reasoning for presenting offensive logos. Jon Bois continues to take what is at first glance mundane material and make it completely captivating. "Dave Stieb," says the Orioles' designated hitter, Ken Singleton, "is no picnic.". David Stieb, (775) 825-3312, 2650 Plumas St, Reno, NV | Nuwber Stieb won 17 games last year for the Blue Jays, although they did no better than tie for last place in the American League East. They kept the equipment well organized. They are Jim Kaat, Sandy Koufax, Bob Lemon, Jack Morris, and Catfish Hunter. [3], Stieb played for the Blue Jays from 1979 to 1992 and again in 1998. The once-prickly pitcher is not angry any more. "I was not going to have all the media, who already heard this was happening, a day later go, 'Oh, he's not doing it.' On August 29, 2010, Stieb threw the ceremonial first pitch at the Rogers Centre, celebrating the 20th anniversary of his no-hitter game, with the anniversary coming four days after the celebration. "He didn't want pitching to interfere with his hitting," says Bessa. All Rights Reserved. Thank you", "Good work - Fairly Priced! ", "They all make the customer feel that your job is important to them", "Just keep doing what you are doing. Kyle is an excellent foreman. "I really couldn't believe it myself," Stieb says. Dave Stieb was born on the 22nd of July, 1957. They also discussed Stieb's current business endeavor as a contractor in Reno, Nev. Stieb talked about. the most among any pitcher. And now, with everything apparently in place, there's no telling how much farther he can go. Time is running out. So he walked into manager Tim Johnson's office. Fast workers. He considered calling the whole thing off. He has just enough of it left to present one more altar to the gods and say goodbye.". In the shortened 1981 season, he became the first starter in the history of the Toronto franchise to have a winning season11-10. "He was angry," Sportsnet's Stephen Brunt wrote last year, recalling his days covering Stieb in the 1980s. But many who stand in line for an hour inside the stadium remember. Draft: Drafted by the Toronto Blue Jays in the 5th round of the 1978 MLB June Amateur Draft from Southern Illinois University Carbondale (Carbondale, IL). I'm 40 years old, he said. MLB.TV Buy MLB.TV Buy At Bat MLB . ", Jones, however, appealed to Stieb's sense of team spirit. But if you had to look at everything, I think I was the best.. Dave Stieb was born on July 22, 1957, in Santa Ana, California. It wasn't vintage Dave Stieb stuff.". from the SABR BioProject, More Dave Stieb Pages at Baseball Reference. Stieb's father was a contractor. "I would not get on stage. You are honest and run a professional business", "Service is outstanding. He's also so tight he makes it hard on himself. Building under construction. It defined me then, not now.'". Top 60 All-Time Jays: #2 Dave Stieb - Bluebird Banter You will be happy with the work, attention to detail is outstanding", "You were fantastic; I knew I had made the right call as soon as Lisa answered. As we'll demonstrate shortly, by a variety of metrics Dave Stieb was the best pitcher in baseball for at least a four-year period, from 1982-85. Stieb played for the Blue Jays from 1979-92. "Is that all you got?". It's that tightness that makes him such a great pitcher. They were pretty much real good already in the whole '80s, '80 to '89, whereas we didn't really get good until like '84, '85. I had butted heads with him before about alienating his teammates, so we had a conversation the next morning about it. The brushback pitch was an integral part of his repertoire to back batters off the plate,[16] and was especially tough on right-handed hitters in this respect. I wrote this then: Stieb was a magnificent pitcher, a tragic hero, a lone wolf whose intensity could be as intimidating as his slider, a surly sort who alienated many a writer and some teammates as well He hated to give in to a batter or a writer. [9] But arguably his best pitch was his slider that had a late and very sharp break, especially difficult for right-handed batters to handle. He is eager to expound. The end of Dave Stieb's career was as poetic, fascinating, and shocking as the rest of it. Sport as a metaphor for life has been a common theme in Bois documentaries, and here it never is contrived. He and his wife, Pattie, have a son, Andrew, who celebrates his first birthday this week. 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DETAILS BELOW. He glowered and muttered on the mound. It's a funny thing, but most converted infielders and outfielders have good control, especially infielders. Become a Stathead & surf this site ad-free. But Mattick and LaMacchia had their doubts. Fast, professional, neat and competent", "Kyle worked diligently both days. The fact is, he has found the one missing ingredient in his still new makeup as a pitcher: peace of mind. "I like rock and roll and heavy metal. How Dave Stieb was robbed of the 1982 AL Cy Young award, and what it's still costing him today - The Athletic How Dave Stieb was robbed of the 1982 AL Cy Young award, and what it's still. You've made our house look brand new again! We all can learn a lot from Dave Stieb about patience, fulfillment, and passion. He said no. He's got no chance.". "He's like me, Stieb said, looking at Saberhagens numbers. Stieb's "makeup" improved after Martinez gave him a talking-to about his attitude. I am very happy and I dont say that unless I mean it. Dave Stieb on Hall of Fame: 'I surely did not deserve to be just wiped Search Details, Dave Stieb's Phone #, Address & More Whereas with other pitchers this would be seen as a sign of weakness, with Stieb it was perceived as the best way to motivate himself to get out of a jam. It was, Mattick concludes in retrospect, one of the smartest things he has ever done, no small claim for a man who signed the likes of Frank Robinson and Vada Pinson. The job stayed within budget with no cost overruns", "They met their 4-day job estimate. Around the time of the book Moneyball, WAR (then called WARP) and Win Shares were invented and I fell in with a group of baseball nerds at a site called Baseball Primer (later Baseball Think Factory) who decided to fix the Hall of Fame's many errors by starting over from scratch and electing the people who really deserved to be inducted, starting in 1898. 2/2: In January 1987, Dave Stieb was coming off his worst season, in stark contrast to having won the ERA title in 1985. Stieb started it with Dunedin in the Class A Florida State League. I try my damndest now not to let any runs score as the result of an error. Instead, I watched a ton of baseball and spent the off-seasons reading about baseball. That was something else new I had to deal with. In the past I have always prefaced my Jon Bois reviews by saying I don't even like baseball, I don't even watch football. Stieb began as a two-pitch thrower; he has become a four-pitch pitcher who has mastered the changeup and the curve. That's the mark of a good pitcher. But you can't be taking chances with those young arms." ", Stieb is an extraordinarily handsome man, tall and well built (6 feet and 190 pounds) with hazel eyes and a trim brown mustache, the baseball equivalent of Tom Selleck. Stieb is the subject of the 2022 four-part miniseries Captain Ahab: The Story of Dave Stieb, by Secret Base's Jon Bois and Alex Rubenstein; in addition to discussing his career, it advocates for his induction into the National Baseball Hall of Fame based on his accomplishments.[21]. The edges are smoother. [12] Stieb's number 37 was engraved on the pitcher's mound for the game and 10,000 bobbleheads of Stieb were handed out to fans upon entrance.[13][14]. He had an ERA+ of 122 and a FIP of 3.82. Bob LaMonte, who lives only a short drive from Stieb's parents' modest Spanish-style home in San Jose and who was Stieb's high school history teacher and special teams football coach (Stieb averaged 42 yards a boot in his two seasons as a punter). Mastercraft is a company with lots of integrity. Your office staff (Lisa) very pleasant, helpful and very patient with me and my multiple color changes. Stieb told Butera he was crazy. Bois and Rubenstein are the greatest documentary makers, ever. We went through a year every two weeks, one week for discussion (everyone was required to defend all of their votes) one for voting, starting in 2003.. They looked at each other quizzically. Dave Stieb - Society for American Baseball Research LaMonte urged Stieb to fly immediately from California to Toronto and make his peace with a city he had offended in the past with his trade demands. "All he's got on me is two Cy Youngs and a World Series that he actually pitched in, Stieb said. Part 2 just tore my soul apartPart 3 just put it back together, Sprinted out to my backyard see if, like Dave Stieb, I too have spent 20+ years on this Earth without realizing I have a rocket launcher attached to my shoulder. It's like a beautiful piece of music, played out over one of the longest units of time in any major sport: the career of a dominant baseball player. Mobilesite. Jon Bois humanizes Stieb's experience, showing what a class act he became despite the crushing blows he faced. On the days when his slider was diving and his fastball was crackling, his stuff might have been better than anybody's. 14,202nd in major league history) I couldnt be happier with the outcome! We would not hesitate to absolutely recommend this outstanding company for all your painting needs. Afterward, Roger Clemens told him he should still be pitching. He will use any of these pitches in any situation and on any count. Dave Stieb's struggle is universal, gut wrenching, and inspiring. Logos were compiled by the amazing SportsLogos.net. What it told me was in (the writers) minds, I didn't even do anything worth recognizing.. You don't know what I'm going to say.' IMDb [8] In 1998, after a five-year hiatus from baseball, Stieb returned to the Blue Jays and pitched in 19 games (three starts), going 12 with a 4.83 ERA.[1][9]. Photos by John Lott. "I don't think I even knew how to figure an ERA in those days. His pitching surprised and convinced the Blue Jays to draft him. "He was absolutely overpowering. Dave Stieb - Age, Bio, Personal Life, Family & Stats - CelebsAges "He has a tremendously competitive attitude. I would recommend your company to anyone who is looking to have a painting job done and wants to work with reliable, competitively prices professionals", "Thank you so much for a job well done - you are experts in all aspects of painting and decorating, and we look forward to working with you in the future", "Our house looks beautiful - excellent craftsmanship.