The original plan had been for them to disappear without a trace, like so many other people in that part of Panam, but when the reward money was offered, they decided to fabricate a narrative in which the two girls had mysteriously lost their way on the trail. Jumping to conclusions too early, or on the basis of too little and incorrect information is likely to lead to the wrong conclusions. Hi Chris, to me the place Kris is in looks really spooky, but I also think it looks like the entrance to a cave. Thats what I see as well. Who would do this, and why? For a time, manysuspected Froon and Kremers never got lost on the mountain, but wereinstead victims of a crime in town; this later proved false. This case certainly is perplexing, as many of the disappearances Ive written about. There is much speculation about the night time fotos made using the Cannon. Exhausted and waited somewhere near water for days. Why are you not sharing their photo number, why are you stating generalities, let me help you, there is a link with all the photos https://koudekaas.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-disappearance-of-kris-kremers-and_11.html one girl got hurt, i think in the fall the camera got wet and bumped. They are free now. I agree. I think your initial analysis of the photo is spot on. I do not see any eyes, but I can definitely see a nose and a mouth. Also the path looks to be a dried up river vs a man made path. Debra Ann Velleman, of Waukesha, Wis., and Sue L. Borries, of Teutopolis, Ill., are missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama on Jan. 3, 2022. Teams investigatedfor 10 days; their hunt scaled down on April 14, 2014, though continued on for 10more weeks. https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CJKQMGxJ1Kc/XH7ld3XtSnI/AAAAAAAAjOg/kechIb5Cge8msf5kRVinBCrEjIiBCl7TwCLcBGAs/s1600/7reCdlm.jpg, Actually heres uncompressed upscaled original image (upscaled and color corrected with AI). You ask good questions. . Gary, great work on noticing things in such detail. Were trying to raise $5,000 for gear, security, transportation and food. The commenters here are speculating wildly about this particular picture. I believe the backpack was placed near the river in order to indicate where the remains would be found (like a flag), and perhaps the backpack was provided in hopes to receive the reward money, and the location of the backpack meant that searches would move to a different location (potentially because the police were too close to the suspects at the time). Very interesting.. The sun is shining right into her eyes so shes squinting and bending down a bit to see her friend, who was probably talking to her while snapping the photo. You mention the research team. Hi, do you know when and where this book will be available? When she finally reached her friend, it was basically too late, or very close to it. Haha. She is not tied up, there is no rope around her waist and there are no hidden or blurry people in the photo. Her hands are not tied. The abductor is a deeply religious man, in his own demented way, and he sees this as a sign from God. Bright sunlight is coming in from the left side of the photo, so Kris holds her flattened right hand up to her face to shield her eyes, similar to a salute. Just pressing the button to turn the screen on provides you with the relative information, ie, whether you have a signal or not. Again NO SIGNAL! We do not know what other clothing or items they possibly took. I would not pay much attention to what she has to say as it sounds like she wrote this book to try to justify/clear herself from all the criticism she garnered through this experience: I am trying not to speculate but where is the firm incontrovertible starting point? Theres no evidence that animals scavenged the Holandesas., Panamanian IMELCF Forensic Anthropologist, This is from the Daily Beast interview with Jeremy Kryt titled: The Lost Girls, the Bones, and the Man in the Panama Morgue. The backpack had no scratches, no marks, the camera and mobile phones inside are as good as new. or Lisanne would gave definitely called her mother AT LEAST ONCE because, listen to this this is from her own diary written just two days before their disappearance: The families continued to plead with the U.S. government to send equipment and personnel to aid in the search and recovery effort. 3. After taking a deep dive into all the evidence and flying out to Panama to do their own investigation, the pair concluded that the girls deaths were an accident. The students from Amersfoort in the Netherlands had spent six months planning their dream trip to Panama, hoping to spend some time backpacking, volunteering and learning Spanish. Hi Justin, great work with sharpening this image. However, regarding Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, Id need to know more about their personality to make this determination. Cave photo: Eight tourists from Moscow who. The red and black objects look like bolt cutters or tree cutter. Where did u see that picture ? It is possible for incompetence to work in conjunction with interests to protect key industries. Kris is hunched over beside a sacrificial alter with hands tied behind her. This was either something catastrophic or a developing situation due for example to them getting lost. I see the nose and mouth and possibly and eye, like they were trying to hide from the girls or camera and peaking behind branches creepy. Look for an ex-military man who may be the culprit. Why would they remove them? No accident. I think this picture of Kris is a picture of her circling around looking for where they entered the jungle. People began to suspect something happened whenthe dog Blue returned from the hike unaccompanied. Turn on desktop notifications for breaking stories about interest? As the search was starting to wind up, a local woman handed in a blue backpack, claiming she found it in a rice paddy along the banks of the river. Jump forward to Boquette now and you will see a photo of the girls in the street, and behind them is a shirtless fat white man. The photos give the appearance that they are PROMPTED to go ahead by someone. Ive already researched a lot about the local conditions: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/07/02/kris-kremers-lisanne-froon-panama-bleached-bones/. The roof or cover is not substantial enough to keep out rain but it could work as camouflage from the air. If you find more info about this, please feel free to share it. Its a bit strange that the dog is not in any picture. Those two women were wearing very little clothing to be entering bush/jungle, there is no way that theyd easily make their way through vegetation, and, as they were clearly intelligent, why would they voluntarily just walk into dense bush? If you take small part of a bigger image and blow it up to match the size/aspect ratio of other photos on the card, it will still keep the same number of pixels per square inch, but they will become much bigger. Thanks for the observation. After this, the photos were from April 8, 2014and likely snappedbetween 1 amand 4 am. I have read several of the books. 4. Terrible for the parents. US Is Europe's No. As a side note, if all of the photos are in the order in which they were taken, why do they put their hair up, and take it down so much? & the way the local police handled it seems so botched making it stranger, & why keep some pictures hidden from the public still, especially if the case is closed now? With all that Im reading now in the police file, it couldnt be anything else there was a certain sequence and timing to it, that had to be caused by the flash floods, typical to the region and season., Winning Photos from the 2018 Nikon Small World Competition, Incredible Time-lapse Shot from the International Space Station at Night, Intense Macro Photos of Ants Battling to the Death, Surprising Underwater Photo Revives Investigation of Missing Teen, Hacker Hoodie Blinds Surveillance Cameras with Infrared Light, Couple Finds Trove of 2,000 Cameras and Lenses in Storage Unit, Hyper-Realistic AI Face Filter Shocks TikTok Users, AI Tool Reveals How Celebrities Faces Have Been Photoshopped, The Exposure Donut for Sony Cameras Simplifies Manual Exposure. The back of the shirt was soiled (you interpret). At 2:50 they start walking up to what I believe is the location in this photograph, Not a cave but an old bridge you can see the railing and bridge post and there is a weird shadow to the left behind the railing. So, if the dog went on the hike with the girls, its most likely that the owners would not have known that fact. View our online Press Pack. The indigenous people know how to use phones watch the Kinga documentary. They got lost and they died of starvation and a hard ration, except for Chriss. Youre welcome to do that other places online. Why would the perpetrators concoct all of the photo/backpack evidence? Why no more fotos were taken after 508 on the 1st until the nighttime session on the 7/8th? She must therefore be in a house or building of some kind and therefore being kept prisoner at least for the 8 days before that photo was taken. Weird. Its texture and color seemingly resembles the red bag tied to the SOS stick on the rock later on, imo. Had someone told them about something worth seeing? The deaths of more than 4,680 people have been documented during migration in Asia since 2014, often linked to the exodus of the Rohingya from Myanmar. no, Jaguars fear humans and do not hunt them as tigers do in India. Thanks, John. However, one particular group of indigenous people were discovered (updated, old link) in January 2020 to be capturing people, torturing them and offering them as human sacrifices. Its almost as if Kris is in the midst of turning back around at the moment this photo is taken, due to the foliage becoming too dense to proceed any further. The backpack and all the contents are so confusing. Most people in Panama dont have the expertise, nor equipment to handle these sophisticated tasks. That would account for a canopy structure being built there. Perhaps the killer of Catherine Johanet knows more, Hi, u might want to watch this vid it has theories dat i think might giv more insights to this case, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCaD8kRTwsI. Theres a lot of loose ends to be tied up, but I think this 2021 investigation can do it. 1 Long-Haul Tourism Market. Therefore, this can prove that the likelihood of a third party being involved is very high. This makes no sense. The dogs just do what they want to do. Thorough job, very insightful and so well done Please visit Panama and further investigate. Dogs here are seen as animals (like a jaguar or puma) that can take care of themselves, theyre seen as being dirty (not permitted on furniture) and are more rugged, like the dog can handle his own problems. The case needs solid evidence and/or solid witnesses coming forward. What I find most concerning is her face. And they wont leave until they know all hope is lost. Were their phones not able to text? Im very curious what your experience is living in Latin America, because generalizations like your statement are certainly inconsistent with many disappearance stories and law enforcement activity here. Yes the dog was owned by Giovanni and Doris, the owners of Il Pianista Restaurant. Given thetimeline, authorities assumedat least one of the womenwas alive at thetime, five days into the search. Yessss!! IF there was a dog with them why then did they not photograph it? He even found pictures of the suspect and a local model wearing Kriss blue shirt right after the disappearance. I also think those girls probably already perished before the dates on those daytime photos. Around 2 oclock. Give me a link. Meanwhile, on April 2, 2014, the pairmissed their appointment with their hired tour guide. After frolicking in the sun and taking photos for a while they decided it was time to return home, BUT they had no idea where they entered the jungle so they could not find the way out of the jungle back go to the trail. So I see men in the cave. Eventually theyll have to confront these issues or nobody will visit and expats/immigrants/investors will leave. March 3, 2023, 7:57 AM. Would they really have gone along a dark spooky ravine, which is obviously a dead end, if they were trying to find their way back to Boquete? For a monster (him or them) this was enjoyment. I hope one day they will find more answers. If Kris were injured and they couldnt use the phone, then why didnt Lisanne go get help? Is there much shareable knowledge about the gang in the area? This girl was tortured before they killed her. I believe that the LA Times article is more informative, so Ive updated the link in my writing above. The insignia looks more like a darkish skinned face peering through a narrow window and observing the girls from behind some sort of screen. The jungle was searched for another ten days with the help of the cops from the Netherlands - but there was no sign of the girls. He went into the girls room without police, he was involved with finding of the backpack, and also the bones. Image 505 is actually the last image before the night photos. It was taken on the Continental Divide on April 1st, 2014 with the recorded time: 13:20:32. The fact that one of the 112 called connected for 2 seconds and they did not redial it immediately, is also well dodgy. The night picture she is standing in same spot and someone is doing something to her lower leg or foot ,you can see them under her. Rights of initiation? Much, much more revealing. Another case that comes to mind is the case of Holger Hagenbusch: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/07/02/holger-hagenbusch-a-disturbing-murder-and-exposed-coverup-in-mexico/. What I find unusual is that in a panic they did not repeatedly try unless she kept pressing redial and that does not register as a second attempt. I could be wrong, but to me this looks like it could be a hunting device of sorts, like a pit/catch trap. From my understanding, the various teams communicate with each other about which parts of the case they are investigating, and collaborate occasionally to share information. Lisanne's bones appeared as if they had decomposed naturally - but Kris' bones were mysteriously stark white as if they had been bleached, raising questions about whether someone had been involved in her death. There has recently been something in the news about it. I too believe this is most likely what happened. They are 99.999999% preventable. This case has captivated me. I have a working theory of the predator (not a specific name). Even the cheap pair of sunglasses are in perfect condition. While I do believe eventually, and possibly soon after this, there was foul play, I dont think anything untoward was happening as of this photo. Most travelers that have big experiences want to remember the small details of trips, because the trip represents an important memory in their life. Its all speculation until more answers are found. Foul play is very likely. She is obviously excited by the weird place they have found. A woman from the localNgbetribeturned in a blue backpack she claimed she found along the bankof a nearby river. A tragedy and a mystery but in its core, this is only a horrible accident. The pair had been hiking around the jungle for two weeks as part of a backpacking trip - and they were planning to stay for another four weeks with their host family to volunteer at a local school. On the bottom right of the photo it looks as though her hair is wrapped around somebodys fingers, or rather someone has their fingers wrapped around her hair. I read extensively about this case and when I saw the above pic, I got the most eerie feeling. While the case has since been declared closed by both the Panamanian and Dutch authorities (who worked on . Why werent those outgoing calls being completed? If the dog was with them, we cannot know for how long, nor why the dog left the girls. Like jaguar? Could be that the path turns sharp right or left (out of the frame) or continues up ahead after a short scramble. Snoeren and West believe that flash floods, which are typical to that area, would make strategically placing items impossible. Panamanian screwed up the investigation monumentally, but I would think that the private detectives followed up all the leads: after all, they were getting paid a lot of money for it. However, according to the Daily Beast: We now know that more than two dozen other victims also were reported in the same region of Panama, including a young woman from the United States found murdered earlier this year. From 2017 . I do not think this case fits the criteria of missing 411. Do mobile phones store the number entered? Theres no telling how many people touched it before the police got it. The bones of Lisannes foot were fractured in an unusual way (from the top down). They talk as if it would be difficult to branch off the trail, but maybe they did not notice other paths that could have been taken? Too many coincidences. Also right inside the cave looks like a fox or something similar is painted on the rock. Ive just watched a video on YouTube.. An unusual one.. A psychic reading actually.. I could go on and on. I wanted to share this article from a big newspaper in Panama. 1. We live in interesting times. Ela est apavorada Many cold cases have been solved years later. So that is what she discovered here. Are they low-level or sophisticated or a combo or both? It isnt a cave, somebody has shown in a youtube video that it us just a very deep path on the wrong side of the mountain with a sharp turn. They are really good, especially parts 3 and 4, which give a lot of information about the girls photos. On April 3, 2014, authorities began an aerial search of the forests and an on-foot search ofBoquete. As well as lots of other things It shows her right arm more clearly and it looks as though there is something square where you would expect her right elbow to be strange. Or is it all part of a cover-up? If one or both of the phones were missing, it would have generated more questions. It looks straight and like it may go over the eye and above it. Herm appears to be traveling up to her head, which is why you dont see her sleeve. I think someone followed the girls, caught them, killed them and brought them somewhere, hid them, so they were never found. And the hair photo shows him holding Kris by the neck (you can see his fingers, one wearing a silver ring with faces engraved on it). Also why did they go alone without a guide? I dont think so. It is cooler at those altitudes but also inside the forest it will be more humid. Phone records. Since they were two young women from Europe, I can easily see the possibility that they offended the wrong man. Totally agree, Alexis. I wrote about the upcoming book here: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/12/09/new-book-coming-spring-2021-kris-kremers-and-lisanne-froon-case/. Does anyone know where this photo was taken in relation to their happy photos taken at the top of the Continental divide? Required fields are marked *, I just gave the brief overall story of what I think happened. Why? and then found by someone and then the real nightmare started. Kris is clearly sticking out her tongue at someone. Do they know more than we do? I know that in previous photos there are trenches like this one naturally occurring throughout the jungle due to erosion, but this one doesnt appear to be from that. Hope there will be a reasonable explanation to everything one day. One indication is that I cannot see the shoulder strap of her top that is obscured by her white/fair forearm. Froonand Kremerswere both in their early 20s; they traveled toPanama to work with children. Kris Kremers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22, went for a walk through the scenic forests around the Baru volcano in Boquete - and never returned. Local authorities dont often feel a sense of responsibility to victims and their families. These photos all look very photoshopped. Between taking the last foto (Nr 508) at 12:54 local time and the first SOS call at 16:39 local time something happened. On the far right upper right of the photo. The families are now working on having the womens' remains brought back to the U.S., he said. Why go to another country to hike when America and other safer countrys have plenty of hiking places ? I was surprised to learn that. Why would that be? The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System reported that more than 600,000 people go missing in the US every year, but the majority are quickly . It belongs to the long green leaves we are seeing up there. However, the tone of the pictures began to change. I think Juantarctica made a compelling case on YouTube for this theory. Why is no one talking about what appears to be a rock painting or a carving 3-4 feet in front of her? He ledo toda la compilacin y visto la mayora de videos. The non-waterproof lycra backpack mysteriously shows up, with completely dry contents. I would certainly buy it if it had been printed in English. In a mind-blowing theory, Dick Steffens, a former detective in Amsterdam, claimed Kris could still be alive after she was trafficked into the sex trade by a kidnapper roaming in the jungle. I agree w rope around waste thst wasnt there before, hair is completely down Aldo, shes in distree. Or if someone deleted them? The smooth rocks would further back that theory up and the blue trash could have just washed up thereperhaps. The gangs in Panama are much smaller, usually consisting of between 5 and 30 people. So, unless there was camera tampering (that may be since one photo was apparently deleted digitally), her hands are not tied. Theres a blood splatter on her leg from her tendon being cut, to keep her from running away. I dont see what the writer sees at all. I know that their camera and mobile phone photos have been analyzed a thousand times by various people online but I also know that many people arent able to enhance the brightness, contrast, exposure and saturation in a professional graphics program. It looks like there may be some red on her face too or other markings. Its very disappointing to see the comment sections on this website to be allowed to turn into a very disrespectful and unfunny joke. They should be alive and flourishing today. Does blue have something to do with this strange punishment ritual? As for the night pics Im going to also throw this one out there and say the photos were heavily darkened to take away what was really there in view and then the spotty weather areas were added over including the rain drops. Perhaps he gave some other persons a lift with the girls as is one of the stories out there. However, Dutch authors Marja West and Jrgen Snoeren claim they have solved the mystery in their bookLost in The Jungle. But in numerous case there are adverse priorities that lead to incompetence in disappearance investigations. The group of 13 youngsters - nine from Coln province and four who were visiting from Panama City - left on Friday morning to go swimming in Gatn Lake. But shes too far out now. Please remember to be considerate of the two girls that lost their lives and their families. is. I think they were murdered and their greatest mistake was to travel to this little town in Panama. In the picture of her in the Cave? I think its very possible that someone was with them or joined them along the way at some point. But absolutely everything points to it being a case of underestimating the jungle and dying from exposure. Perhaps Kris fell first and Lisanne heard her scream and running in fell herself. After exhaustive thought, my theory: First, respect to family, friends, and the good. Although it might be the sun that gives her face a strange expression. Here are some ideas Ive speculated about. Several of the relatives and friends of those visitors to the Quintana Roo who went missing formed a group named "Truth, Memory, and Justice" in an attempt to .